Another postseason is here, which means it's time to look at the Oldest Ringless Player for each championship contender. You know the drill. 40-man roster, oldest player without a championship ring. Here we go:
Chicago Cubs: Fernando Rodney (March 18, 1977)
Houston Astros:Chad Qualls (August 17, 1978)
Kansas City Royals: Jeremy Guthrie (April 8, 1979)
Los Angeles Dodgers: Joel Peralta (March 23, 1976)
New York Mets: Bartolo Colon (May 24, 1973)
New York Yankees:Carlos Beltran (April 24, 1977)
Pittsburgh Pirates: Aramis Ramirez (June 25, 1978)
St. Louis Cardinals: Matt Belisle (June 6, 1980)
Texas Rangers: Adrian Beltre (April 7, 1979)
Toronto Blue Jays: LaTroy Hawkins (December 21, 1972)
Funny how these lists often end up being full of journeyman relief pitchers. It really takes the fun out of making them.
Sunday, October 4, 2015
Thursday, September 3, 2015
The Athletics Franchise Deep Six
Of the Original 16 franchises, we've finally come to the last one, the Philadelphia/Kansas City/Oakland Athletics! Let's take a look at this much-traveled franchise, whose history is a hodgepodge of dynasties and fire sales.
That's one great 1st Team. All but two are Hall of Famers. The 2nd Team, though, feels like a huge dropoff. Waddell and Simmons are all-timers, and Bando and McGwire are both borderliners, but the rest? Fine players, not immortals.
The position that really surprised me this time was third base. The A's have more depth there than I would've expected. With the season Josh Donaldson is currently having, he might've stood to rank even higher if he hadn't been traded.
I was frustrated trying to pick guys for the lower teams at several of these positions. There was just too much mediocrity. For a franchise that's won nine World Series, they sure aren't that deep. The great Athletic teams tended to burn brightly and be snuffed out quickly.
I plan to continue this series with the expansion franchises, but since they don't have as much history, I won't be doing a Deep Six. For the 1961-77 franchises I'll be doing a Deep Four, and for the 1993-98 franchises I'll be doing a Deep Three. We'll see those after this season is over.
| P | C | 1B | 2B | 3B | SS | LF | CF | RF | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1st | Lefty Grove | Mickey Cochrane | Jimmie Foxx | Eddie Collins | Home Run Baker | Bert Campaneris | Rickey Henderson | Dwayne Murphy | Reggie Jackson |
| 2nd | Rube Waddell | Terry Steinbach | Mark McGwire | Max Bishop | Sal Bando | Eddie Joost | Al Simmons | Dave Henderson | Jose Canseco |
| 3rd | Eddie Plank | Frankie Hayes | Jason Giambi | Mark Ellis | Eric Chavez | Jack Barry | Bob Johnson | Amos Strunk | Socks Seybold |
| 4th | Tim Hudson | Wally Schang | Harry Davis | Danny Murphy | Carney Lansford | Miguel Tejada | Joe Rudi | Bill North | Josh Reddick |
| 5th | Eddie Rommel | Kurt Suzuki | Stuffy McInnis | Dick Green | Josh Donaldson | Mike Bordick | Topsy Hartsel | Coco Crisp | Wally Moses |
| 6th | Chief Bender | Ossee Schrecongost | Ferris Fain | Nap Lajoie | Lave Cross | Walt Weiss | Tillie Walker | Rick Monday | Mike Davis |
That's one great 1st Team. All but two are Hall of Famers. The 2nd Team, though, feels like a huge dropoff. Waddell and Simmons are all-timers, and Bando and McGwire are both borderliners, but the rest? Fine players, not immortals.
The position that really surprised me this time was third base. The A's have more depth there than I would've expected. With the season Josh Donaldson is currently having, he might've stood to rank even higher if he hadn't been traded.
I was frustrated trying to pick guys for the lower teams at several of these positions. There was just too much mediocrity. For a franchise that's won nine World Series, they sure aren't that deep. The great Athletic teams tended to burn brightly and be snuffed out quickly.
I plan to continue this series with the expansion franchises, but since they don't have as much history, I won't be doing a Deep Six. For the 1961-77 franchises I'll be doing a Deep Four, and for the 1993-98 franchises I'll be doing a Deep Three. We'll see those after this season is over.
Wednesday, August 12, 2015
The Dodgers Franchise Deep Six
And the last of the classic eight National League franchises is off the board! And there's only one classic AL team to do after this one! So how do the boys from Brooklyn and L.A. look?
Pretty good indeed! Three of their four infield spots on the 1st Team are from the Boys of Summer era, as are two of the three outfield spots. Is it safe to say that was the greatest period in Dodger history?
Some people might be upset that I named Dazzy Vance starting pitcher for the 1st Team over Sandy Koufax, but I thought the numbers merited it. Koufax had an incredible peak, but Vance's was plenty dominant as well. The main difference is that Koufax is a legend of living memory, while Vance played in the 1920's for the Daffiness Boys. Clayton Kershaw is making his way up the list too, so this generation may have its own immortal Dodger hurler to tell their grandchildren about.
Third base was definitely the weakest position here. I never realized how few great third basemen the Dodgers have had. I wasn't familiar with George Pinkney, the 3rd Team third sacker, until I compiled this list. And to think he was the greatest Dodger third baseman until the 1970s.
| P | C | 1B | 2B | 3B | SS | LF | CF | RF | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1st | Dazzy Vance | Mike Piazza | Gil Hodges | Jackie Robinson | Ron Cey | Pee Wee Reese | Zack Wheat | Duke Snider | Carl Furillo |
| 2nd | Sandy Koufax | Roy Campanella | Dolph Camilli | Davey Lopes | Adrian Beltre | Bill Dahlen | Jimmy Sheckard | Willie Davis | Dixie Walker |
| 3rd | Don Drysdale | Mike Scioscia | Jack Fournier | Jim Gilliam | George Pinkney | Maury Wills | Gary Sheffield | Mike Griffin | Reggie Smith |
| 4th | Clayton Kershaw | John Roseboro | Steve Garvey | Tom Daly | Joe Stripp | Bill Russell | Dusty Baker | Matt Kemp | Shawn Green |
| 5th | Nap Rucker | Paul Lo Duca | Jake Daubert | Eddie Stanky | Red Smith | Rafael Furcal | Pedro Guerrero | Pete Reiser | Babe Herman |
| 6th | Jeff Pfeffer | Russell Martin | Wes Parker | Steve Sax | Cookie Lavagetto | Germany Smith | Wally Moon | Brett Butler | Willie Keeler |
Pretty good indeed! Three of their four infield spots on the 1st Team are from the Boys of Summer era, as are two of the three outfield spots. Is it safe to say that was the greatest period in Dodger history?
Some people might be upset that I named Dazzy Vance starting pitcher for the 1st Team over Sandy Koufax, but I thought the numbers merited it. Koufax had an incredible peak, but Vance's was plenty dominant as well. The main difference is that Koufax is a legend of living memory, while Vance played in the 1920's for the Daffiness Boys. Clayton Kershaw is making his way up the list too, so this generation may have its own immortal Dodger hurler to tell their grandchildren about.
Third base was definitely the weakest position here. I never realized how few great third basemen the Dodgers have had. I wasn't familiar with George Pinkney, the 3rd Team third sacker, until I compiled this list. And to think he was the greatest Dodger third baseman until the 1970s.
Saturday, August 1, 2015
The Indians Franchise Deep Six
After doing these pretty steadily for a while, I guess I got preoccupied in the last month. But I'm back, and I have a new Deep Six for you, my beloved audience! Today we shall look at the Cleveland Indians!
The Indians are pretty darn good at starting pitcher. Gaylord Perry wasn't an Indian for very long, but he wore the uniform long enough, and was dominant enough to make it.
Center field and shortstop were probably the deepest fielding positions, and third base was a lot stronger than I expected it would be. Right field ain't too shabby neither.
Catcher and first base were weaker than perhaps you realized. Victor Martinez and Carlos Santana, both current-day players who were pretty good for a while crack the Top 3 catchers. Hal Trosky was a fine first baseman who had the misfortune of playing in the American League at the same time as Lou Gehrig, Jimmie Foxx, and Hank Greenberg. He's a solid 2nd Teamer behind the great Jim Thome. After those two, there's not a lot to write home about.
Second base was the position where stars burnt briefly but brightly. Lajoie was an easy choice for the 1st Team, but the two Hall of Famers who follow him down the column, Roberto Alomar and Joe Gordon, played only three and four years, respectively, with the Tribe. But oh, how great they were. I wanted to give Bobby Avila some extra credit for his longevity, but in the end, I just thought those two deserved to be ahead of him. Jason Kipnis has been impressive so far, and is already close to passing up Baerga. Can he continue his ascent?
| P | C | 1B | 2B | 3B | SS | LF | CF | RF | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1st | Bob Feller | Victor Martinez | Jim Thome | Nap Lajoie | Al Rosen | Lou Boudreau | Albert Belle | Tris Speaker | Joe Jackson |
| 2nd | Stan Coveleski | Steve O'Neill | Hal Trosky | Roberto Alomar | Bill Bradley | Joe Sewell | Charlie Jamieson | Kenny Lofton | Manny Ramirez |
| 3rd | Addie Joss | Carlos Santana | Andre Thornton | Joe Gordon | Ken Keltner | Terry Turner | Jeff Heath | Larry Doby | Elmer Flick |
| 4th | Sam McDowell | John Romano | Ed Morgan | Bobby Avila | Buddy Bell | Ray Chapman | Joe Vosmik | Earl Averill | Rocky Colavito |
| 5th | Gaylord Perry | Ray Fosse | George Burns | Carlos Baerga | Graig Nettles | Omar Vizquel | Dale Mitchell | Grady Sizemore | Shin-Soo Choo |
| 6th | Mel Harder | Joe Azcue | Mike Hargrove | Jason Kipnis | Toby Harrah | Asdrubal Cabrera | Michael Brantley | Brett Butler | Braggo Roth |
The Indians are pretty darn good at starting pitcher. Gaylord Perry wasn't an Indian for very long, but he wore the uniform long enough, and was dominant enough to make it.
Center field and shortstop were probably the deepest fielding positions, and third base was a lot stronger than I expected it would be. Right field ain't too shabby neither.
Catcher and first base were weaker than perhaps you realized. Victor Martinez and Carlos Santana, both current-day players who were pretty good for a while crack the Top 3 catchers. Hal Trosky was a fine first baseman who had the misfortune of playing in the American League at the same time as Lou Gehrig, Jimmie Foxx, and Hank Greenberg. He's a solid 2nd Teamer behind the great Jim Thome. After those two, there's not a lot to write home about.
Second base was the position where stars burnt briefly but brightly. Lajoie was an easy choice for the 1st Team, but the two Hall of Famers who follow him down the column, Roberto Alomar and Joe Gordon, played only three and four years, respectively, with the Tribe. But oh, how great they were. I wanted to give Bobby Avila some extra credit for his longevity, but in the end, I just thought those two deserved to be ahead of him. Jason Kipnis has been impressive so far, and is already close to passing up Baerga. Can he continue his ascent?
Sunday, July 5, 2015
The Reds Franchise Deep Six
Back for another Deep Six, this time for a franchise that was frustrating to compile. The lower levels of several of these positions were so mediocre that trying to pick the right guys was tough. I hate it when it's a close call.
Yes, friends, Joey Votto is already the greatest Reds first baseman of all time. First base was a strong position for this franchise, with lots of very good players but few great ones. You have to love the consistency of it. Just missing the cut was "the Mayor," Sean Casey.
Did you realize the Reds haven't had that many dominant pitchers in their history? Now you do. They've never had a Cy Young winner either.
Tony Perez is better known as a first baseman, but his greatest years while playing third base forced me to put him there. Also at the hot corner, Todd Frazier is quickly working his way up the list. Appreciate what you're seeing, Cincy fans. He's a special one.
The most disappointing part of this was Pete Rose. He played all over the field, and I felt that his best years were in left. However, if you rank him purely as a left fielder, he comes in behind George Foster. There was no way he was going to beat out Votto, Morgan, Groh, or Robinson at their positions either. While he may be the ultimate Cincinnati Red, there wasn't a way to get him on the 1st Team. But I suppose Rose has some experience with being excluded.
| P | C | 1B | 2B | 3B | SS | LF | CF | RF | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1st | Noodles Hahn | Johnny Bench | Joey Votto | Joe Morgan | Heinie Groh | Barry Larkin | George Foster | Vada Pinson | Frank Robinson |
| 2nd | Jim Maloney | Ernie Lombardi | Ted Kluszewski | Bid McPhee | Tony Perez | Dave Concepcion | Pete Rose | Eric Davis | Ken Griffey |
| 3rd | Bucky Walters | Ed Bailey | John Reilly | Lonny Frey | Chris Sabo | Roy McMillan | Bob Bescher | Edd Roush | Ival Goodman |
| 4th | Jose Rijo | Bubbles Hargrave | Jake Beckley | Brandon Phillips | Todd Frazier | Leo Cardenas | Kal Daniels | Cy Seymour | Reggie Sanders |
| 5th | Frank Dwyer | Johnny Edwards | Frank McCormick | Miller Huggins | Hans Lobert | Buck Herzog | Charley Jones | Bobby Tolan | Curt Walker |
| 6th | Eppa Rixey | Larry McLean | Lee May | Johnny Temple | Arlie Latham | Frank Fennelly | Adam Dunn | Bug Holliday | Jay Bruce |
Yes, friends, Joey Votto is already the greatest Reds first baseman of all time. First base was a strong position for this franchise, with lots of very good players but few great ones. You have to love the consistency of it. Just missing the cut was "the Mayor," Sean Casey.
Did you realize the Reds haven't had that many dominant pitchers in their history? Now you do. They've never had a Cy Young winner either.
Tony Perez is better known as a first baseman, but his greatest years while playing third base forced me to put him there. Also at the hot corner, Todd Frazier is quickly working his way up the list. Appreciate what you're seeing, Cincy fans. He's a special one.
The most disappointing part of this was Pete Rose. He played all over the field, and I felt that his best years were in left. However, if you rank him purely as a left fielder, he comes in behind George Foster. There was no way he was going to beat out Votto, Morgan, Groh, or Robinson at their positions either. While he may be the ultimate Cincinnati Red, there wasn't a way to get him on the 1st Team. But I suppose Rose has some experience with being excluded.
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